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  1. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/5/3/2996417/elder-scrolls-online-mmo-details

    Ova vest je dugo cekana, jer je Bethesda davno javila da su uzeli licencu za MMORPG engine [SWTOR engine] i da prave nesto zanimljivo sa njime.

    Trenutno platforme nisu poznate, pa sam stavio topic u general multiplatform. Radnja ce se desavati 1000 godina pre standardnih Elder Scrolls igara, 3 playable rase. Vise detalja ce stici kada novinu krenu u prodaju, i na E3-u.
     
  2. Panzer

    Panzer Travis Bickle

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    Dalo se pretpostaviti. Nemam poverenja u sposobnost Bethesde da napravi dorbu igru. Pogotovo posle prosecnog Skyrima.
     
  3. Nyarlathotep

    Nyarlathotep Pimmelmann

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    Ni ja vala, al' nebitno je to, igru tje da prodaje hype, nema shansi da Bethesda ne prodje dobro.
     
  4. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    11 miliona prodatih kopija Skyrima i prosecno vreme igranja od 75h im verovatno govori da nemaju sta puno da menjaju.

    Uspeh ovog MMO-a ce najvise zavisiti
    - da li ce gameplay dozvoljavati totalno open igranje kao i SP igre
    - da li ce biti pretplate ili f2p
    - da li ce MMO izaci i na konzolama
     
  5. Panzer

    Panzer Travis Bickle

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    11 miliona prodatih kopija Skyrima i prosecno vreme igranja od 75h im verovatno govori da nemaju sta puno da menjaju.

    Uspeh ovog MMO-a ce najvise zavisiti
    - da li ce gameplay dozvoljavati totalno open igranje kao i SP igre
    - da li ce biti pretplate ili f2p
    - da li ce MMO izaci i na konzolama




    Igracka populacija koja Skyrim proglasava vrhunskim rpg-om, ocito nema visoke kriterijume po pitanju istog. Jedan Risen 2 koji je delo daleko manjeg i siromasnijeg tima je daleko bolja igra. Bottom line, najbolji Bethesdin rpg je FNW koji je samo izdala. Ne trolujem, vec samo iznosim svoj sud, koji je u ovom slucaju suprostavljen hordi autistic fanova Skyrima. Apropo tih 75 h.... nije mi jasno sta je glavama tih ljudi? Igra posle max 15 h sa svim exploitima, generic questovima, repetivnom borbom i morem bagova bukvalno ubije u pojam!
     
  6. pulzarokkit

    pulzarokkit The Machine

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    ^najbolji Bethsedin rpg je Morrowind :p
     
  7. Nyarlathotep

    Nyarlathotep Pimmelmann

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    "Igra posle max 15 h sa svim exploitima, generic questovima, repetivnom borbom i morem bagova bukvalno ubije u pojam!"

    Bash to, zbog toga ni ja nisam mogao da zavrshim Skyrim, iako me je, moram priznati, u pochetku poprilichno uvukla igra u svoj svet, al' kad sam skapirao da nisam izashao iz prvog velikog grada, i da vetj imam skoro pa najbolji armor, smorio sam se, josh na to dodam dosadne questove, prelake zmajeve... meh, kontam da su ti ljudi sa 75+ sati provedenih u igri morali nekako da opravdaju ulozhene novce :lol:

    Chekam da vidim vishe detalja o ovom MMO, mozhda i bude ok.
     
  8. Panzer

    Panzer Travis Bickle

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    "Igra posle max 15 h sa svim exploitima, generic questovima, repetivnom borbom i morem bagova bukvalno ubije u pojam!"

    Bash to, zbog toga ni ja nisam mogao da zavrshim Skyrim, iako me je, moram priznati, u pochetku poprilichno uvukla igra u svoj svet, al' kad sam skapirao da nisam izashao iz prvog velikog grada, i da vetj imam skoro pa najbolji armor, smorio sam se, josh na to dodam dosadne questove, prelake zmajeve... meh, kontam da su ti ljudi sa 75+ sati provedenih u igri morali nekako da opravdaju ulozhene novce :lol:

    Chekam da vidim vishe detalja o ovom MMO, mozhda i bude ok.



    Cak i da sam pazario igru, pored najbolje volje ne bih mogao da overim tih prosecnih 75 h. Stvarno ne znam sta bih radio u igri tako dugo. Ko zna, mozda posle svih dlc-ova, zakrpa i nezvanicnih modova Skyrim izraste u dobru igru. Slicno se desilo sa total conversion Nehrim modom za Oblivion koji sam sa zadovoljstvom zavrsio. Sto se ovog mmo-a tice, sve gore navedeno i mnogo vise mora biti ispravljeno i unapredjeno, da bi igra prezivela pored WOW-a, SWTOR-a i nadolazeceg Guild Wars 2.
     
  9. Omega

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    Nimalo interesantna vijest. Kao sto kolega rece, Morrowind je vrhunska igra, poslije toga prosjek.
     
  10. Black_Waltz

    Black_Waltz Moderator

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    Daggerfall i Morrowind su bile prave Bethesda igre, Skyrim je nahajpovan i više je vizualno iskustvo, a ovo... ko će ga znati.
    Lično, voleo bih da vidim Elsweyr.
     
  11. Efendija

    Efendija зимница мајстор ™

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    Skyrim sam batalio vrlo brzo *naspram ovih 75 sati* pitaj boga da li sam 7-8 sati sastavio. Jebesh ti to prostranstvo... Bolji je RPG sa daleko manjim mapama ali tako napravljenim da skoro svaki deo nekako... odgovara borbi, prichi, atmosferi, da zapamtish mesta gde si proshao po nechemu vrednom, da vidish da to klanje ima neki cilj, da se i sporedne misije ne svode totalno na donesi/umrtvi to i to i stize kinta vec da po mogustvu i one ostave nekakav trag na svet igre itd. Naravno ne treba praviti ni jedan grad za sve tipa DA2 :D

    Da ne serem vishe, ovo chudo ce im se skoro sto posto prodavati odlichno nosheno na uspehu takvih polu-proizvoda/prosechnih igara kakav je i Skyrim.
     
  12. Maxa

    Maxa opsa!

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    bethesda dno dna.
    sreća pa je obsidian uleteo da spasi fallout franšizu od propasti.

    a ovaj mmo će da se kupuje masovno u startu jer su ljudi glupi, ali sumnjam da će i 30% nastaviti pretplatu...
     
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  14. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    -Releasing 2013 for PC/Mac
    -Developed by ZeniMax Online Studios
    -MMORPG
    -250 Person Team
    -Started development in 2007
    -"This time, saving the world from the awakening of ancient evil is only the beginning. What happens when hundreds or thousands of prophesied heroes all think that they should be Emperor?"
    -The game is fully voice acted
    -Third person perspective
    -The game uses a hotbar to activate skills like other traditional MMOs
    -Visually it looks like other Hero Engine MMOs like SWTOR
    -The general art style is kind of like RIFT or Everquest 2
    -You can't be a werewolf or vampire
    -Crafting, alchemy, and soul stones will exist in an unrevealed form
    -There will be Daedric Princes like Molag Bal, the primary antagonist, and Vaermina, "whose sphere of influence extends to the dream world and the nightmares of mortals", along with some unnamed others
    -Constellations will be in the game a la Mundus stones (which work like guardian stones) and also give the answer to things like block puzzles where you step on the blocks in a certain order
    -Tons of towns ranging from Imperial City, Windhelm, Daggerfall, Sentinel, Mournhold, Ebonheart, Elden Root, Shornhelm, Evermore, Riften, and a lot more
    -Radiant AI will not be present
    -There will be mounts, but no flying mounts
    -Fast travel exists in the game in the form of wayshrines, which are also your ressurection point, and you can teleport from one wayshrine to any other wayshrine you have already visited
    -There most likely won't be dragons
    -Sneaking will be in the game, but how it is implemented is undecided
    -They're not talking about pets right now
    -There will be no player housing
    -There will be no NPC romances or marriage
    -"It needs to be comfortable for people who are coming in from a typical massively multiplayer game that has the same control mechanisms, but it also has to appeal to Skyrim players."
    -Features most of Tamriel including Skyrim, Morrowind, Summerset Isle, and Elseweyr.
    -"Not all provinces are included in their entirety; Zenimax Online is keeping large areas inaccessible to save them for use as expansion content. Nonetheless, every major area is represented to some extent."
    -As an example, Windhelm is fully implemented, but Winterhold and the mages' college won't be in at launch.
    -There are three player factions:
    --Ebonheart Pact: The Nords, Dunmer, and Argoninans
    --Aldmeri Dominion: Altmer, Bosmer, and Khajit
    --Daggerfall Covenant: Bretons, Redguard, and Orcs
    -"Recreateing the freedom Elder Scrolls players expect within the World of Warcraft-style mechanics Zenimax Online is using for this MMO would be impossible without changing the way that players interact with the world."
    -As such, the game uses a hubless design
    -For example, you don't necessarily pick up a quest to do the following, but if you kill all the necromancers in an undead barrow, a shade you free at the end will reward you.
    -However, to help you find these events, various NPCs you talk to will tell you where they are happening and put a marker pointing them on your map, which is obviously totally different than receiving a quest.
    -Not all quests will have NPCs that indicate where they are
    -The game uses MMORPG genre standards such as classes, experience points, and other traditional MMORPG progression mechanics, but they try to present it "around the core fantasy presented by traditiona Elder Scrolls games" such as traveling around and righting wrongs or seeking riches
    -The game world is very large relative to Skyrim
    -You can explore almost anything you can see
    -the game is set 1000 years in the past
    -You can't master every discipline
    -The imperials are an enemy to all three factions, lead by the noble Tharn family and the King of Worms, Mannimarco, and are hatching a plot to take over all of Tamriel
    -But BEHOLD, Mannicmarco is scheming with Daedric prince Molag Bal to take over the world behind the Tharn's back
    -Also, your soul has already been stolen by Molag Bal, which is the reason you can come back from death over and over again, and the starting plot is that you're fighting Molag Bal to get your soul back from him
    -Hitting the level cap takes about 120 hours
    -Each faction has their own leveling content
    -An example quest is the story of Camlorn, where you have to stop evil werewolves who have their eyes set on conquest. First, you have to do a "standard MMO kill and collection quest" to sto ghosts from attacking some mages and soldiers. The ghosts are reliving a battle that the werewolf leader was in. You summon a ghost to find out what's going on, and the ghost tells you to wear her dead husband's armor to re-experience the battle he died in. You then get transported hundreds of years into the past to fight this battle. During this battle, you can choose to save the dead man's wife or to pursue the Werewolf leader. ZeniMax chooses to save the man's wife, who then tells you that the Werewolf leader is weak to fire. This information is helpful when you fight him, but you don't actually need to do this quest before fighting the werewolf leader if you don't want to. Basically, you can skip parts of quest chains if you want, but you get some benefit for playing the whole thing. Also, whenever you go back to the town you just saved, everything there hails you as a hero.
    -The game features three faction PvP where you fight to take over keeps and use trebuchets and other siege weapons to help do it. At the high end, you can have 100 v 100 battles. There are also farms and mines you can try to take over. Mots of this happens in Cyrodiil where your goal is to take over and hold the Imperial City to get faction wide bonuses for it. If you have played Dark Age of Camelot, this probably sounds familiar. For those who haven't, essentially the entire zone is a giant PvP area will all sorts of points of interest.
    -The most accomplished PvP player on your faction becomes emperor whenever you take over the capital
    -When you take over Cyrodiil, you will be able to adventure in it as a hostile city a la Kvatch
    -The game will have raids and heroic modes for its dungeons as end game content in addition to faction PvP
    -There is also balanced PvP for people who prefer eSports
    -The game will also have high end public dungeons
    -Public dungeons are essentially instances that aren't actually instanced, so anyone can be in them, so imagine a World of Warcraft dungeon that featured everyone on the server in the area instead of just your party
    -There are standard instanced dungeons as well
    -Back on the topic of the skillbar, you have a limited number of skills you can use at any given time, and can change them whenever you're out of combat
    -The number of skills is equal to (paraphrase) "a light and heavy attack with your current weapon that take up the first two slots, a few more spells related to your class, and an ultimate in the last slot".
    -The ultimate is used once you gain enough finesse, which is earned by doing well in combat
    -You also get a bonus loot chest if you're soloing and max your finesse, and you can also build finesse by comboing with other players
    -For example, a rogue can put oil on the ground that a mage can set on fire
    -A fighter can also spin in the firestorm a mage puts down, which sends out fireballs
    -If you've seen Guild Wars 2 videos, the above will seem familiar
    -You can't combo with the abilities of enemy players though, so if an enemy faction player drops an oil slick, you can't set it on fire
    -The Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood will be presented, but in what form isn't detailed as their contnet is hard to recreate in an MMO setting
    -NPCs will try to work together and use player like behavior when fighting you, and (at least to my understanding) have stamina as well
    -They want the AI to be good, so instead of enemies in a dungeon sitting around and waiting to be pulled, you will be attacked by the entire room and they will try to react to how you are playing
    -The claim was not demo'ed to Game Informer
    -You destroy dark anchors to gain reputation with the Fighter's Guild. They are large hooks that fall from the sky pseudorandomly and have Daedric guardians next to them. They are easier to kill with a group, and once destroyed, everyone who participated gets a reputation boost with the Fighter's Guild, and eventually nets you rewards like new skills and abilities.
    -The combat model will not be real time due to latency
    -The combat is based around a stamina bar which you can use to sprint, block, interrupt, and break incapacitating effects
    -Blocking is the primary focus of these abilities, and can do things like stopping the secondary effects of attacks such as an ice spell slowing you
    -Stamina also applies to PvP, so stamina management (and wearing down your enemy's stamina) is important, as your crowd control abilities might be on a long cooldown, and if you use them before the enemy player runs out of stamina, they will probably just block the effect
    -ZeniMax feels that having the stamina bar will help break down the Holy Trinity as stamina allows you to do things like tank
    -However, healing is still a big part of the game
    -There is also no aggro mechanic in the game, which is part of the reason stamina blocking and healing exist
     
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    Black_Waltz Moderator

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  16. pulzarokkit

    pulzarokkit The Machine

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    -You can't be a werewolf or vampire

    fuck this
     
  17. Black_Waltz

    Black_Waltz Moderator

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    EKSLUZIVAN PRVI SKRINŠOT IZ IGRE

    http://i.imgur.com/yeP0Q.jpg
     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QyqUpS9zZAk#!
     
  19. Black_Waltz

    Black_Waltz Moderator

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    Umesto da naprave igru kao Borderlands, oni prave SWTOR.
     
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    Chaos212 Old one

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    obro New Member

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    Uzasno. Izgleda ko kingdoms of amalur+TOR (aka izgleda kao govno)
     
  23. Omega

    Omega N64 je đubre

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    Ne znam samo ko se moze radovati ovom s***u.
     
  24. Blue

    Blue ....................

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    Pa realno niko,
    ali ko zna, možda i ne bude sranje.
     
  25. Black_Waltz

    Black_Waltz Moderator

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  26. zdravkelja

    zdravkelja Member

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    Jebo ih mmo...
     
  27. Black_Waltz

    Black_Waltz Moderator

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    MORE EXCLUSIVE FOOTSEXAGE

    http://i.imgur.com/937F9.png
     
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    obro New Member

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    MMO je mesto gde RPG ode da umre
     
  29. Timemaster

    Timemaster Caelondian

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    pa dobro, da li može ovoliko NEREALNO izgledati, ja nisam trepnuo...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9C2uLspL9k&feature=youtu.be
     
  30. grunt

    grunt Celeb Freak

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    Kako PREJAK CGI !!!!!!!

    Steta sto je protracen na smece od igre....
     
  31. Blue

    Blue ....................

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    Što? Jel izašla igra?
     
  32. grunt

    grunt Celeb Freak

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    Pa igra je MMO nuff said.

    Mozes se na sajtu prijaviti uskoro krece open beta.

    http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/
     
  33. Wahad

    Wahad Prekidać 4 Life! Staff Member Administrator

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    "Closed beta" mislis
     
  34. dsst

    dsst fdggg

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    hah samo zamisljam playere kako se sretnu u PvP-u i ovako kao na kraju trejlera se samo gledaju medjusobno i polako hodaju u krug, u stvarnosti bi to bilo odmah silovanje tastature ubij ubij ubij
     
  35. Timemaster

    Timemaster Caelondian

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    u stvarnosti bi to bilo odmah silovanje tastature ubij ubij ubij



    hahaha, tačno, gank i world pvp nikad ne izgledaju epski i traju 10 sekundi maksimalno :D
     
  36. Black_Waltz

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    I have walked the world a hundred times, experienced the greatest heights and the lowest lows of the history of this cosmos.

    I have walked in the shoes of both man and mer, beast and god. I have been Slave and Master countless times, often at the same moment in history. I have been Nerevarine, I have been Dovahkhiin, I have been Daedra princes, I have been a simple traveler too far out of his depth to understand the things I did.

    I am this world.

    And now I watch it burn.



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    Inače, sve TES igre koje smo igrali su ustvari "bajke" pravog TES sveta koji ćemo biti u prilici da proživimo u novomznate šta, zajepte vi to. Skajrim je bolji od ovoga.
    Evo snimka, pa vi vidite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDHa-77cy3I
     
  37. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    Animacije od Blur-a kostaju 1 million $ po minutu. Bethesda je iskesirala dovoljno za 8 minuta. :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rlmmBZBzI2M
     
  38. grunt

    grunt Celeb Freak

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    Nazalost su te CGI animacije najsvetlija tacka celog projekta, bas sam dosta losih stvari nacitao o igri. Ljudi koji nece da odugovlace samo kazu it's bad and thats it. Jos oce da traze pretplatu + CASH SHOP, FU.
     
  39. Visant

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    dobio sam na GMG-u discount code od 25% na cenu od 59.99$ ako neko zeli neka se javi
     
  40. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    To sto traze pretplatu je definitivno ocekivan potez. Puno su ulozili u igru, pa oce godinu dana da izvuku sto vise para mogu dok je masa voljna da "istestira igru".

    Ne verujem da ce igra dugo ostati subscription based. Mada Skyrim se prodao u 20mil, mozda ce uspeti da na kratko privuku dosta mase.
     
  41. grunt

    grunt Celeb Freak

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    Pa tako nesto, ja kontam da ni 1 god nece izdrzati pre nego sto odu u f2p vode. Do tada cu lepo sacekati i igrati je free(ako je naprave da bude vredna igranja thou), barem MMO-a ima ko blata i svake godine su sve bolji i bolji, a svi su f2p, tako nek se nose xD
     
  42. Carnex

    Carnex Jetrena Pašteta

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    Pošto su postali WoW klon uesto da pokušau da budu MMO skyrim i ja im to predviđam...
     
  43. Black_Waltz

    Black_Waltz Moderator

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    E bogme, neće oni od mene praviti zamorče.

    Koliko sam sve pročitao do sada, ni malo mi se ne sviđa sve to, a komedija što mi se jedan moj dobar drugar kune da će ova igra biti bolja od Morovinda, Obliviona i Skyrima zajedno. I uporno tvrdi da "lore je njihov, mogu da rade sa njima šta hoće".

    I dalje stojim pri gorenavedenom nekoliko postova ranije.
     
  44. forsaken demon

    forsaken demon Svemirski Modulator

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    Komentarišete trejler, a šta kažete na ovaj lineup glumaca? :D
    [​IMG]

    Uložili su dosta, ali se ipak slažem da je sve jasnije da samo hoće da nahvataju keš na brzinu, mislim plaća se igra+pretplata+itemi u shopu... Looool. Nema šanse.

    Radije bih davao keš za WildStar za koji je očigledno da se ljudi maksimalno trude.
     
  45. Nyarlathotep

    Nyarlathotep Pimmelmann

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    Jedino mi je tretji s leve strane poznat, al' ne mogu da kazhem odakle. Ovi ostali su mi nepoznati.
     
  46. Omega

    Omega N64 je đubre

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    Stvarno?

    Ja jedino ne prepoznajem žensku sa desne strane.
     
  47. forsaken demon

    forsaken demon Svemirski Modulator

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    Skroz desno je Wonder Woman, tj. Lynda Carter (mada je meni u prvi mah ličila na Lucy Lawless :D).

    Inače ceo spisak je:
    Kate Beckinsale, Alfred Molina, John Cleese, Bill Nighy, Malcom McDowell, Michael Gambon, Lynda Carter, tim redom.

    Nisam bio siguran jedino za Gambona i Nighyja.
     
  48. grunt

    grunt Celeb Freak

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    @Njarla
    Poklopi se usima lol
     
  49. Maxa

    Maxa opsa!

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    ^hahah, majke mi :D
    bar, džona kliza...
     
  50. Nyarlathotep

    Nyarlathotep Pimmelmann

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    Aham, sad mi je jasno zashto znam tog lika :)
    ovi ostali su mi totalni anonimusi. Evo, sada i kada imam njihova imena, blage nemam ko su, ajd da su glumili u nekim 80s horrorima pa da mogu nekako da pogodim ko su. ;)
     

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