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  1. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    Edit - Here it is, in all of its 399$ glory :)
    http://sketchfab.com/show/b7LzIm8JrnPw4GBDOMBNGYc39qM


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    Sony je najavio Playstation 4 [nema nista od Orbisa] sa hardverom koji je odavno bio najavljivan u rumorima. OS je fokusiran da bude brz i lagan za social interactions.

    Hardver koji je spomenut na pressconfu:
    - 8 core X86 procesor
    - almost 2TF graficka
    - 8 GB of GDDR5 176 GB/s < !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUUUUUUU
    - dedicated blokovi za video encoding/decoding
    - dedicated chip koji ce upravljati background servisima. Cak i dok je konzola ugasena, downloadi igara/patcheva/updateova ce raditi.
    - gamepad sa touchpadom i LED didom, pracenje ce biti vrseno preko novog dual camera Eyetoy-a


    OS features:
    - lightning fast OS i boot
    - game suspend [konzola se ugasi, kada je upalite mozete nastaviti sa igrom]
    - kada kupite igru preko PSN-a, moci cete krenuti da je igrate posle veoma malog inicijelnog downloada, a u pozadini ce se skidati ostatak.
    - integracija OS-a sa Facebook-om i Ustream-om
    - PS3 backwards compatibility = gone. Not present!
    - veliki fokus na gaikai [i streaming sa clouda, i pretvaranje PS4 u lokalni server za vitu].
    - planiraju da ponude igre sa svihj PS platformi preko gaikaia
    - sve igre sa PSN-a ce moci instantno da se isprobaju preko gaikaia
    - gameplay se kontantno snima u pozadini, moze se deliti sa prijateljima
    - gameplay moze da konstantno streamuje on the web, prijatelji mogu da spectatuju i cak mogu da preuzmu vas gameplay ako se zaglavite negde!
    - poznati igraci ce moci da shareuju svoj snimak svima
    - integracija OS-a sa mobilnim uredjajima i tabletima



    Najavljene 1st party igre:
    Killzone Shadow Fall - desava se na vekti, invazija helgasta. Insane grafika.
    Infamous: Second Son
    Drive Club - veoma realisticni team based racer od Evolution Studios-a
    Knack - igra koja podseca na ratchet&clank

    Najavljen 3rd party igre/demoi:
    Quantic Dream demo - facial tech koji ce omoguciti realistican prikaz emocija
    Media Molecule je predstavio inovativni demo za 3D modelling i user creation tools za kreaciju novih svetova. Looked very nice.
    Agni's Philosophy demo - running on PS4 hardware
    Watch Dogs - running on PC
    Diablo 3 - i za ps3 i ps4
    Jonathan Blow [creator of Braid] predstavio THE WITNESS, logicku openworld igru koja ce biti timed exclusive.
    Down Below - Capcomov medioeval/fantasy tech demo nove igre koje se razvija sa naslednikom MT Frameworka. Neverovatna grafika.
    Destiny - same day launch on ps3 and ps4, obe platforme ce imati exclusive content [napad na MS :D].

    will update

    Mark Reign, Epic: "PS4 is big leap. PS3 was great, but this is incredible"


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  2. Carnex

    Carnex Jetrena Pašteta

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    Iz Epica nova glasina
    PSN self publinshing!
     
  3. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    Self-publishing je bio spomenut par puta u pressconfu, bas me je to bio iznenadilo.
     
  4. Carnex

    Carnex Jetrena Pašteta

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    Niko ne spominje PS3-PS4 crossplay.
     
  5. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    Bice sigurno. Watchogs, Diablo i Destiny ce biti na oba sistema, sigurno ce biti ujednjien multi.[hr]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3_QoV6Mgiw
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuRwp6aCWRw
     
  6. TheNick

    TheNick FIGHT! Staff Member Administrator

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    Legendarni thread u najavi, mada trajace krace od onoga za PS3 for sure... jer konzola nas ceka vec krajem ove godine, prakticno za manje od 10 meseci! Ipak full info cemo dobiti tek na E3-u izgleda.
     
  7. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    Gamepad je super, pogotovo sto donji deo kontrolera ima grublju nazubljenu plastiku! Ubacio sam slike u OP.
     
  8. Spidey

    Spidey Marvel Knight

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    Očekivao sam da vidim izgled konzole, ali ok sad će E3 i tamo ćemo videti sigurno. Nego šta mislite o izgledu kontrolera? Meni iskreno deluje dobro.
     
  9. Carnex

    Carnex Jetrena Pašteta

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    @DieHard

    Zaboravio si da dodaš mogućnost prepuštanja kontrola u igri nekome preko PSNa. Nije jasno da li će taj neko morati da ima tu igru i ako ne mora, kako će sprečiti game sharing.

    I naravno, nešto o novom šefu PS brenda
    http://www.1up.com/features/mark-cerny-game-changer
     
  10. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    Napisao sam to vec [za game sharing via stream]. Inace, raniji rumor od kotakua je spomenuo da ce game streaming ici svim prijateljima, imali oni igru ili ne. Za preuzimanje kontrola, mozda ce morati da ima kupljenu igru.

    Inace:
    Combined with the Mono Headset that will be bundled with PS4, gamers will also be able to chat with friends playing online, while hearing sound effects from the controller in hand.
     
  11. fluffy

    fluffy Active Member

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    kontroler je bas sexy

    ps4 ce biti DRM tvrdjava:/ tako da ce sigurno sve moci za parice
    svuda ce biti "super dealova" za samo par $$....game sharing np..backward compatibility kapiram da lagano mogu da odrade preko streama (nema veze sto vec imamo kupljenu igru @ ps3..its a great deal!)
    screw DRM ionako nam sony rentira!!! ps3 od 3.60 firmware TOS-a

    vidim da ce malo vise da se fokusiraju na multimedia fun servise..no tako mora jelte
    posto se ispostavilo da je vecina leakova bilo legit, bas me znaima sta ce biti od zilion leaked sony patenata koji su zujali po netu proteklih meseci
    dal mogu da prestanu sa failovima na polju interaktivnih gaming kontrolera (aka ps move)....imo samo im ta finesa fali vec decenijama
     
  12. Ivan

    Ivan Active Member

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    U, novi forumi :).

    PSN self publishing mi zvuci mnogo dobro, nekako sam to propustio, mogao bi neko da mi malo preprica...
     
  13. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    8GB of GDDR5 je pravi game changer. To bas nisam ocekivao, jebenih 16 512MB chipova. Not cheap, but VERY awesome.

    Igre koje krenu da iskoriscavaju taj ram ce izgeldati ludacki dobro. Durango vise nema nikakvu prednost u odnosu na PS4. Cak stavise, imace manje rama jer ce mu OS biti veci. Ja ne vidim zasto bi PS4 OS bio veci od 1gb [a i bilo bi steta protraciti puno gddt5 rama na OS].
     
  14. Carnex

    Carnex Jetrena Pašteta

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    Ma za os će ostave giga DDR3 negde u zapećku. Mogu se isprse za tih dva dolara po konzoli :D
     
  15. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    Obe konzole ce imati 8GB brzog rama... PC igraci bi najebali da DDR3 nije dirt cheap. :D

    Ali cemo zato platiti krvlju za graficke koje imaju vise vram-a.
     
  16. TheNick

    TheNick FIGHT! Staff Member Administrator

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    Gamepad deluje FINE.
     
  17. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    Gamepad deluje FINE.



    Nema vise start/select dugmadi. Umesto njih su stavili "Options". PS Home dugme je i dalje tu.

    Inace, interesting fact. Na vrhu gamepada je USB port, ali na dnu je 3.55mm audio jack kao i neki proprietaryu slot. Tu ce verovatno kaciti accessories-e [mini keyboard ili mozda VR glassess, ko zna].
     
  18. Super Simke 64

    Super Simke 64 I hate haters!!!!

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    Zasta sluzi onaj pravougaonik na sredini gamepad-a (iznad pecurki)? Jel to nesto kao touchpad na laptopovima?
     
  19. TheNick

    TheNick FIGHT! Staff Member Administrator

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    ^ da, to je touchpad

    Options je odlicna ideja za dugme... vrlo prakticno. Jer da bi za vreme igre usao u opcije uvek je bilo start to pause, select options, push button... ovako opcije odma iskacu sto je do jaja. Share dugme takodje deluje kao super ideja, samo da sve to radi tako seamless kao sto je delovalo na konferenciji i nece biti problema. Select je nebitno dugme jos od PS2 vuklo se tradicije radi... ali start ce nedostajati zbog pause, mada mislim da ce tu ulogu sada imati PS button koji ce pauzirati igru i izbacivati u OS za multitask, tako da je na kraju krajeva SVE OK sa novim kontrolerom ipak.
     
  20. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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  21. TheNick

    TheNick FIGHT! Staff Member Administrator

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    PS4 will actually play those bullshots in real time :D
     
  22. fluffy

    fluffy Active Member

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    jebote..sto vise gledam ovaj gamepad sve mi lepsi...OCU!

    ps4 dobro dosla u nase zivote
     
  23. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    "A new application from SCE called 'PlayStation App' will enable iPhone, iPad, and Android- based smartphones and tablets to become second screens. Once installed on these devices, users can, for example, see maps on their second screens when playing an adventure game, purchase PS4 games while away from home and download it directly to the console at home, or remotely watch other gamers playing on their devices."


    Ovo zadnje mi se najvise svidja.
     
  24. TheNick

    TheNick FIGHT! Staff Member Administrator

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    Osim toga zadnjeg sve navedeno vec ima Xbox Live app za iOS (valjda postoji i za Android dunno) ali radi posao jos od proslog leta. Tako da je Sony lepo pokupio sve to od MS-a, nice.
     
  25. Visant

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    Sony explains why the PS4 was a no-show at its own debut

    http://www.polygon.com/2013/2/21/4011972/sony-explains-why-the-ps4-was-a-no-show-at-its-own-debut

    I ran into Shuhei Yoshida, president of Worldwide Studios at Sony Computer Entertainment, after the show and asked him why the console wasn't shown during the presentation or after.

    "We need something to show off later," he said, half kidding.

    Will it be shown at E3, I asked.....


    Novi gamepad mi izgleda predobro sa novim oblikom, jedino sto me upucava sto nisu stavili ni okvirnu cenu uredjaja ali kapiram cekaju x720 da to uradi prvi
     
  26. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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  27. Haseo

    Haseo Hands off the panda!

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    Ja vec stekam pare da gulim killzone4 na launchu :)
     
  28. Kraken

    Kraken Disco Bean

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    PS4 Eye is compatible with DualShock 4 and PlayStation Move motion controller.
    Dakle ps3 move ce moci normalno da se koristi, a sto opet daje nadu da ce i ds3 moci da se koristi kao drugi dzojped, ne kupuje mi se dodatak odmah.
    Btw ne vidim cemu hate za move, meni je extra njegovo koriscenje sa puskom u kz3. Podsca me na luna parkove i veoma je precizan.
     
  29. Omega

    Omega N64 je đubre

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    Najveci nedostatak Move-a je sto nije uveden zajedno sa PS3, vec naknadno zbog popularnosti WiiMote-a.
     
  30. zdravkelja

    zdravkelja Member

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    Svidja mi se sve sto sam do sada video. Cak ni po pitanju multimedije nece biti iza Xboxa. 8 madafaking gigabajta gddr5. Bas me zanima odgovor Microsofta.
    Samo da ne zaseru sa cenom i ovo ce biti uspesna konzola :)
     
  31. Kraken

    Kraken Disco Bean

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    Samo jedan hdmi izlaz, da je Kaz i dalje glavni bilo bi makar cetiri :D
     
  32. Timemaster

    Timemaster Caelondian

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    a šta ćemo sa potencijalnim ylodovima? prc! inače, gamepad mi se mnogo svidja
     
  33. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    Aaaaaaaand done http://www.photontide.org/upoznajte-playstation-4/
     
  34. Wahad

    Wahad Prekidać 4 Life! Staff Member Administrator

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    Day One, sa 2 gamepada. Samo da bude ovde kod nas. Pa ko hoće na test a da ima dobar 3D HDTV neka zove :D
     
  35. Kraken

    Kraken Disco Bean

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    a šta ćemo sa potencijalnim ylodovima? prc! inače, gamepad mi se mnogo svidja



    2 godine plus tri produzene garancije = don't care until ps5 :D
     
  36. Timemaster

    Timemaster Caelondian

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    ti si u civilizaciji miran, ova ovde džungla je problem :)
     
  37. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    PS4 OFFLINE PLAY = CONFIRMED
    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-21-playstation-4-does-not-require-an-internet-connection

    Jos da potvrde Region Free games i "pobedili su". :)
     
  38. Carnex

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    "Oh yes, yes, you can go offline totally. Social is big for us, but we understand there are some people who are anti-social! So if you don't want to connect to anyone else, you can do that."

    Kako proseravanje!
     
  39. Timemaster

    Timemaster Caelondian

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    mogu da se proseravaju koliko hoće, offline je offline :D
     
  40. Blue

    Blue ....................

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    Tako je danas, čim nećeš da te posmatraju odmah si anti-social.
     
  41. zdravkelja

    zdravkelja Member

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  42. Timemaster

    Timemaster Caelondian

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    sada kad se setim kakav je boom bio resistance kec kad je izašao sa ps3 (a realno smešno izgleda sada), mogu misliti šta će za dve-tri godine da odrade sa igrama :D
     
  43. zdravkelja

    zdravkelja Member

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    3rd party support :D

    http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/21/playstation-4-boasts-over-60-third-party-partners/

    Guilty Gear X3 please, FullHD spriteovi please :D
     
  44. gruja

    gruja I am God of War

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    Ocu kratosa na ps4!
     
  45. Carnex

    Carnex Jetrena Pašteta

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    FUCK YEA! i HELL NO! u isto vreme

    Witcher 3 potvrđen za PS4 ali je takođe potvrđeno da ga neće biti na PS3 i XBOX360! Rekao bih da je i WiiU ispušio onda.

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/21/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-confirmed-for-playstation-4

    P.S.

    Sa Eurogamera

    Eurogamer: One of the questions my readers really want an answer to is whether you're going to block the use of second-hand or 'used' games, because it's a huge concern for them.

    Shuhei Yoshida Do you want us to do that?

    Eurogamer: No. I think if you buy something on a disc that you have a kind of moral contract with the person you've bought it from that you retain some of that value and you can pass it on. Do you agree?

    Shuhei Yoshida Yes. That's the general expectation by consumers. They purchase physical form, they want to use it everywhere, right? So that's my expectation.

    Eurogamer: So if someone buys a PlayStation 4 game, you're not going to stop them reselling it?

    Shuhei Yoshida Aaaah. [Asks PR adviser.] So what was our official answer to our internal question? [Consults adviser.] So, used games can play on PS4. How is that?


    Da prevedem.
    Tehnički nećemo sprečavati igranje polovnih igara kupljenih na fizičkom mediju od predhodnog vlasnika ali...
     
  46. darkado

    darkado EmuGlx veteran

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    Jel ću jedini da bitchujem oko nedostatka ps2 kompatibilnosti? :)
     
  47. Visant

    Visant Captain Caveman

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    Ima PS1,PS2 i PS3 kompatibilnost kroz gaikai :) Znam da nije true ali bolje to nego nista
     
  48. cakster

    cakster Emulation Freak

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    Atlus – Developer of the Shin Megami Tensei fracnchise. Believed to be working on Persona 5.

    Ako bude PS4 ekskluziva... necu odoleti i kupicu je istog trena.
     
  49. Vampir

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    Ja sam se bas pozitivno iznenadio kako se pokazao Sony. Vidi se da su naucili svoju lekciju sa greskama iz proslosti.
    Znaci nemogu da docekam dan kada cu moci kupiti PS4.
     
  50. Kraken

    Kraken Disco Bean

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    To je i meni najpozitivnije. Deluje mi kao da su stvarno uzeli u obzir misljenje kupaca. Od snimanja igre, preko uloge gledaoca dok ortak igra, pa sve do tona same konferencije i po prvi put prikazivanja pravih igara bez zamornih tech demoa. Jbga, nema vise Kutaragi ludila vec striktno ponuda konzumentima sta traze :)
    Cak i ime je isforsirano od strane kupaca nakon kuknjave na vitu.
     

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