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The Last of Us Part II [Naughty Dog]

Discussion in 'PlayStation 4' started by DieH@rd, Dec 3, 2016.

  1. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    “I think the game is kind of a conversation about the cycle of violence, and I think as you play through the game, it becomes clear that the pursuit of vengeance has tremendous cost, not only against the people you’re exacting vengeance on, but on the player themselves,” Newman explains. “And I think one of the really interesting ways we’re playing with that is with our named NPCs. All of the human enemies in the game have names, and they’ll refer to each other by name when they’re co-ordinating, like when one is telling one to flank, or to search a building, and they’ll also react in anguish and call out each other’s names when they see one of their friends die."

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    The naming system assigns each NPC a name as they spawn, when they’re born, rather than allowing them to choose random names when they call out to each other. This way, if you happen to die after killing Sean, for example, Sean will still be Sean when you load up a checkpoint and try again.

    “Originally we were experimenting with systems where they would be dynamically named as you played, but what we realised is that if you die, and then you respawned, then if the guy in the hat was Lee before and he’s Stephen now, that’s not great,” Newman tells me. “There’s a lot of really interesting things under the hood, but it’s an extraordinary technical accomplishment to have these named NPCs. When we first came up with the idea, we thought it was this ridiculous pipe dream, but we decided to take it on and they figured out a way to make it work.”
    https://www.vg247.com/2019/09/26/last-of-us-part-2-hands-on-preview/


    Nema nista od Wiki-a za za svakog NPC-a.
     
  2. voja87

    voja87 Well-Known Member

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    bilo je tako nesto i u kecu, nije bas svaki neprijatelj imao ime ali bilo je situacija gde igrac pomilsi jbt moram da ih ubijem ali ovi ljudi se samo snalaze u shit situaciji
     
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    voja87 Well-Known Member

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    empowering... empowering
     
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  4. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    Znaci Shambler [full combat ] i Stalker [stealth] su totalno nove klase zombija, plus runneri sada ostaju zivi i puze po zemlji ako im noge budu raznesene.
     
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  6. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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  7. eufrat

    eufrat вештац за сиротиљу

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    Normalno i pametna odluka. Ko još planira da uzme ND igru u ovom slučaju TLoU2 zbog MP-a, kada njihovi naslovi nikada nisu bili MP orijentisani već narative driven SP igre. Jel' svaka igra mora da ima i MP? Ne mora! Ljudi su postali veoma naporni i večito imaju prevelika očekivanja od developera. Pored pregršt MP orijentisanih igara (a realno, stvarno ih ima pun k) sada i igra koja se proslavila zbog totalno drugih kvaliteta, kao mora da ima podršku za MP. Ma ajte molim vas... Ridiculousness

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  8. Goro Manjina

    Goro Manjina Well-Known Member

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    Jbt onaj period šizofrenije sa multiplejerom kad su assassin creed i bioshock imali multiplejer, god of war ascension tjeeeee
     
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  9. Timemaster

    Timemaster Caelondian

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    jezivo :D
     
  10. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    Sa jedne strane, u zadnje vreme GoW, Spidey [i ajd Days Gone] su ostvarili uspehe bez imalo MP-a pa zasto ne bi i TLOU2, ali sa druge strane, TLOU1 je imao postovan MP koji se i danas donekle igra. Neki fanovi sa pravom osecaju da im je MP oduzet u nastavku, pogotovo kada su ND developeri pricali tokom E3 2018 da rade na TLOU2 MP-u.

    IMO, imaju dosta multiplayer developera u timu, aktivno traze da ih zaposle jos, samo treba docekati da vidimo hoce li izbaciti ista posle launcha [IMO tek posle dolaska PS5].
     
  11. howler

    howler Well-Known Member

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    Pa valjda im je strateski odradjeno za sto veci profit.
    PS4 Story mode - 59$
    PS5 Story mode+MP - 59$
    Kao necemu menjati cenu posto imati dodatni sadrzaj.
     
  12. Wahad

    Wahad Prekidać 4 Life! Staff Member Administrator

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    Nece biti MP ni na releaseu ni kasnije


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  13. Wahad

    Wahad Prekidać 4 Life! Staff Member Administrator

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    Ups, javili su da će biti Multiplayer after all
     
  14. Chodex

    Chodex CAPCOM Street Fighter

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    Ma koga briga za multiplejer Vahadinjo. Ovo je igra generacije.
     
  15. eufrat

    eufrat вештац за сиротиљу

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    Jep, ali neće biti u sklopu TLoU2, već verovatno će izaći zasebno.[​IMG]

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  16. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    "Our target platform is the PS4, the base," Emilia Schatz, lead game designer on The Last of Us Part 2, tells USgamer. "That's actually what I've got on my desk at work, and so that's what we sort of aim for." Schatz adds that while the PS4 Pro has obvious advantages in terms of resolution, The Last of Us Part 2 has always aimed for the vanilla PlayStation 4 as its "development platform" first. "So yeah, you want to have that balance, but you know, there's still a lot of optimization now to get done. What you saw here isn't quite our final frame rate and final screen resolution, stuff like that," she says.
    https://www.usgamer.net/articles/the-last-of-us-part-2-optimization-performance-ps4-over-ps4-pro
     
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    Timemaster Caelondian

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  18. grunt

    grunt Celeb Freak

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    Zato se nadam da sledeci gen nece imati mid gen update kako ne bi dobili ovakve situacije, limitiraju sebe inferiornim hardverom da bi se vise zaradilo tj da base korisnici ne bi plakali :D
     
  19. voja87

    voja87 Well-Known Member

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    verovatno ce biti i sledece generacije ps5 pro, funkcionisalo je ok sada pa sto ne bi to ponovili. ko hoce malo visu rezoluciju/ fps ima i tu opciju
     
  20. Goro Manjina

    Goro Manjina Well-Known Member

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    Mislim da ko je imao teskobu što poseduje base to je davno rešio i kupio pro. Ja sam fine sa frejm dropovima uvek ih je bilo na konzolama i biće, kome smetaju ima pc jbg neka zune keš da ne pada.
     
  21. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    Kakve situacije? Igre se uvek prave za base konzole.
     
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  22. eufrat

    eufrat вештац за сиротиљу

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    Pišu da će igra najbolje raditi na RTX2080Ti, ali takođe da će teško izvlačiti 60fps obzirom na nivo detalja. Oh, wait.

    /s

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  23. vetar

    vetar Well-Known Member

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    Mid gen upgrade će biti još normalniji nego sada, nema šanse više kao ranije da se čeka 6-7 godine na next gen bez ikakvog unapređenja u tom periodu.
    A logično da će se fokusirati na Base konzolu kad je devolopment krenuo za taj hardver i kada 90% PS4 korisnika ima Base konzolu,
    sa ili bez Pro-a, ništa ne bi bilo drugačije za TLoU2.
     
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  24. Revan

    Revan Well-Known Member

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    Ma i dva puta mid gen upgrade...
     
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  25. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    Najbitnije je da nove base konzole ne zakazu u nekom smislu. Sto bolji pocetni hardver, to ce igre moci vise da se razmasu, nebitno kada ce i kakva ce midgen refresh ponuda biti za par godina.

    Xbox One je bio lansiran sa malo tezom arhitekturom za rad, 32MB esram-a i 8gb ddr3, i sada sve multiplat i ekskluzivne igre koje se prave za xbox moraju da podrze rad na takvom hardveru. Manjak brzog ram-a [za framebuffer] i slab GPU na svu srecu znaci samo pad rezolucije, makar CPU nije bio gimped u odnosu na PS4. Problem za Xbox korisnike ce sad biti ako MS nastavi da gura crossgen naslove i kad Scarlett stigne, gameplay od ekskluziva [broj enemy NPC-a na primer] ce morati da jednako radi i na base xbone i na scarlett.
     
  26. vetar

    vetar Well-Known Member

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    Nah, mid upgrade na oko 3 godine nakon izlaska konzole je dovoljan.
     
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    Revan Well-Known Member

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  28. TheNick

    TheNick Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    Sto se MP-a tice, moj komentar sa EmuGlx FB

     
  29. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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    Ako neko hoce da se podseti 720p grafike sa PS3-a. :)
     
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  30. grunt

    grunt Celeb Freak

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  31. Revan

    Revan Well-Known Member

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    Timelapse i po

     
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  32. eufrat

    eufrat вештац за сиротиљу

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    Ekstra :)

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  33. DieH@rd

    DieH@rd Winter Knight Staff Member Administrator

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  34. Revan

    Revan Well-Known Member

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  35. TheNick

    TheNick Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    LESBIAN RAGE OF US 2

    ...jedva cekam!
     

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